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Postby MilkeweedEater » Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:40 am

Many of my cats where from the same mother because i watched her lay them on my school's milkweed i took em to my aparment with my mom. Watch them grow up ( have videos cant find camrea) :oops: so 1 of them came out of there chrysilas fine and flew off around noon under a tree she stayed the othere was a boy but it took me 3 hours be caused he wings where all clumped and then he fell to the floor his wings broke off and scatterd around his cage i was crying he was the fatist cat of all of them kepy him four one day he went plae i khew he was dead from pics the othere 1 i never khew becasue green,blue,blakc no ornage some white, all black fuzz onthe outside of the chyrisalis i was shocked and confused i didnt know what oe was till 12/28/11 so if its oe attacking my butterflies or pesticides my school sprays around it? this is from last year breeding this year all died in 3 or 2 instar
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Re: Oe cats

Postby Mona Miller » Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:18 pm

It is important to sterilize (clean) the containers. Get your mom or dad to help you. I clean containers after each brood. Raise a caterpillar, clean the container with bleach or some other disinfectant. I put papertowel down to catch frass (butterfly poop) and make sure you keep that cleaned out too. Too much frass (butterfly poop) can make your caterpillars get sick.

http://www.evansonart.com/monarchdisease.html
Great photos and info on diseases.

http://www.mymonarchguide.com/2007/07/d ... spore.html
http://www.learnaboutmonarchs.com/learn ... spore.html

http://www.uga.edu/monarchparasites/whatisOE/index.html
How to tell if butterflies are infected with OE
"An infected pupa may develop dark spots or blotches two or three days before the butterfly emerges. These abnormal dark areas are parasite spores. Spores form on the eyes, antennae, wing veins, but mostly on the abdomen. You can see the spores through the outside layer of the pupa a day or two before pigments that color the butterfly normally darken the pupa. Before a butterfly emerges from the chrysalis, pigments are laid down coloring the scales that cover the butterfly. This normal change in the color of the pupa is symmetrical. The color change of an infected monarch happens earlier and does not create a balanced pattern on the pupa."
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Re: Oe cats

Postby MilkeweedEater » Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:31 pm

im 11 my mom tought me to cut the milkweed down put wet paper towls around and the frass fall to the bottem of a vase that caterpillars in tiny cats 3rd instar and down have a flatter cage so they do fall on the wt paper towles i clean the frass 2 times a day so it not my proble when the puptae there in there own cage when emptying the frass we move the monarchs and was the cage out with dawn soap.... so i dont think sterlization would be mor ehelp scince im very sterial when there in 5th star i let them out some times put i clean the surface befor putting them on i wash befor and after handiling htem i learned reading on live monarch best way to get 3 rd instar and below with a paint brush ive handeled 1 instars with my pinky befor and there the ones that make it out a live?
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Re: Oe cats

Postby Mona Miller » Thu Dec 29, 2011 3:11 pm

Dawn will not kill the OE spores. Please read the Project Monarch Health website on OE.

Also, even though the frass is at the bottom of the cage, it can get into the air. I clean every other day when small and 2-3 times a day when the caterpillars are larger.

I don't use wet papertowel for the bottom of the cage. Too much humidity. I use dry papertowel.

Good luck.
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Re: Oe cats

Postby blazing star » Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:40 pm

Thanks for making such an effort, MilkeweedEater!
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Re: Oe cats

Postby MilkeweedEater » Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:54 pm

dude what do you mean are u mad or thanking me ?
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Re: Oe cats

Postby Mona Miller » Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:26 pm

She is thanking you. :cheesy:
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Re: Oe cats

Postby blazing star » Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:30 pm

I was thanking you for helping Monarchs. I'm not mad at you at all.

I hope you are able to raise a lot of healthy butterflies!
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Re: Oe cats

Postby MilkeweedEater » Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:03 am

i am it cold down here in flordia and my mom said ask here on friday if i can get my own way station :D i cant wait tosee them and todays the last day of are frezzeing temters we dont like the cold :wink: and when some says thank you i get cofused LIKE THANKS YOU is angry and a waist of time and the nce one
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Re: Oe cats

Postby blazing star » Fri Jan 06, 2012 11:50 am

I'm near Chicago and it's like Spring outside today. It's freezing in Florida. Go figure.
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Re: Oe cats

Postby Mona Miller » Fri Jan 06, 2012 2:15 pm

Global warming is real. Some areas freezing, other areas too warm.
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Re: Oe cats

Postby blazing star » Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:46 pm

I think it is, too. I have no choice but to defer to the scientific experts; of which the majority concur. I know people that try to hash through the data to form their own decisions and the topic seems way to complex for a lay person to analyze.
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Re: Oe cats

Postby MilkeweedEater » Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:41 pm

i was reading my scince book and it it showed ozone layrs over anartica over a period of time 1992 small amount gone in 2008 all of the ozone is gone :-s
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