Let's talk about Monarchs!
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Steve Rankin wrote: The anti-science crowd would also have us believe that Monsanto has had absolutely nothing to do with declining Monarch Butterfly breeding habitat.
blazing star wrote:That graph does not show that warming ended 10 years ago. [/i]
blazing star wrote:I now understand why he sells pesticides and then states they are safe for monarchs. He is probably looking at a blog that tells him so and not the actual toxic chemical data sheet. Dig deeper, Paul
Mona Miller wrote:You see. That is the problem. Who else is taking pictures, video, and proclaiming the wonderful attributes of GMO crops. No one.
Mona Miller wrote:The problem is you. Your information is not trustworthy.
blazing star wrote: Just because someone has a picture of an insect near toxins and near GM Crops does not mean they survived to live the onslaught of toxins and it does not mean GM Farmland is suitable habitat.
blazing star wrote: I continue to point out that you have no evidence of that GM Cropland serves as suitable monarch habitat and that a couple pictures do not indicate you are right. concerning your opinion. Even if you had 100 pictures, it wouldn't prove your position as we would need to know the duration of time that these pics took place (1 year or 100 years) how many GM crop margins you visited compared to how many exist, how many eggs you saw compared to how many hatched compared to how many matured to mature butterflies.
blazing star wrote:You state that "monarchs are abundant at GM Cropland". Again, a few pictures and videos are not evidence that "monarchs are abundant at GM Cropland".
blazing star wrote:Your point is?
Mona Miller wrote:Paul he's been taking pictures of the premigration.
Paul Cherubini wrote:Mona Miller wrote:Paul he's been taking pictures of the premigration.
I didn't post any pictures of migrating butterflies. I posted pictures of resident, reproductive butterflies; i.e all my Aug. 2 & 3 videos showed males patrolling milkweeds in the GMO crop margins and females laying eggs:
Mona Miller wrote:We have no idea where your photos came from. Too bad you are polluting the data collected by Journey North.
blazing star wrote:Evidently, from the last thread I started, we better hope they aren't abundant there as it's now known that GM pollen kills monarchs as they munch that toxin pollen.
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