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What happened to my cat?

Postby Farfallina » Thu Aug 10, 2006 6:55 pm

My DD and I collected about a dozen monarch cats and the milkweed they were feeding on about a week and a half ago. The largest attached itself to a stick in our habitat and moved into the "J" position. Shortly thereafter she seemed began to "leak" and she is now hanging straight and it appeaers that she has died. :( Could it have been something we did? Are our other cats at risk?
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Postby MILW » Thu Aug 10, 2006 10:42 pm

There's a small chance that your monarch had a wound that allowed its blood to leak out (not contagious but probably lethal). Their blood is green, but turns black when exposed to air, that is their wound-healing reaction.

More likely perhaps is a virus, which can be highly contagious if it gets onto the leaves that you are feeding the other cats. I'd treat it as contagious- try to remove the body and flush it without spilling any more liquid. If you do have any drips, wipe them up with a paper towel that is wet with weak bleach solution (10% chlorox, or 1/4 c bleach in 2 1/4 c water). Be sure to wash your hands well before feeding the other cats, too!

Will you be able to disinfect the habitat, or move the other cats to different housing?

Anyway, I don't think it is anything you have done; it is just that the monarchs are susceptible to a lot of diseases and parasites, and it is hard to diagnose anything without a microscopic examination.

Good luck! -Scott
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Postby Farfallina » Fri Aug 11, 2006 7:26 am

Thanks, Scott.

I moved her to another habitat when she got in the "J" position. It was after that that she began leaking. I was very careful doing it and I don't believe she sustained an injury. Should I not have moved her? When it is okay and not okay to move a cat?

I'm planning on cleaning the habitat containing the other cats today. I try to clean up their waste every couple days or so. I have a few that are quite large now and are probably close to getting in to the "J" position. Any suggestions on how I should proceed? Should I clean this habitat with the bleach solution even through the other catepillar was not in it while she was noticeably ill?

We have succcessfully raised butterflies from mail-order kits, but this is our first time raising them from the wild. Any suggestions you have are grately appreciated.
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Postby MILW » Fri Aug 11, 2006 8:11 am

I wouldn't disinfect the container with the other cats- if they've already stopped eating, they can't get the virus. It can only infect them orally (assuming your cats aren't needle-using drug addicts :wink: ).

For handling, it's ok to move the cats that are wandering around looking for a place to hang, but once they J-hook, they're very delicate and shouldn't be moved. Once the chrysalis has hardened, it is possible to move them but they are still easy to drop and damage.

good luck! -Scott

(ps I try to bring in eggs and hatchlings, mainly. That reduces the chances of parasitism and disease. Some people rinse the milkweed leaves before giving them to the cats, but I don't normally do that)
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Postby Farfallina » Fri Aug 11, 2006 12:58 pm

The others are still eating. Some are larger than others, but I suspect the larger ones should be done eating today or tomorrow. Is it too late for them all? They all look very healthy at the moment. Do you think I should move the larger ones now while I have the chance? I'm concerned about leaving them in with the little guys while they form their chrysilis. They're still eating, but I could put a few leave in with them until they stop eating.
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