releasing in florida?

[Jeans]

my family is going to florida this week for a vacation and i have one butterfly that just emerged and one that might emerge later this week. these are my last ones and they are VERY late. its getting very cold and it even snowed a bit last night, would it be ok to take these last 2 monarchs with me to florida and release them there? Or would that confuse them?
thanks

[Paul Cherubini]

They would do fine if released in Florida. However, beware it would be illegal to bring them into the USA, even though Ontario monarchs naturally move into the USA, unless the United States Dept. of Agriculture grants you a permit and it might takes weeks to months to get such a permit.

Here in California it is illegal to transport a monarch even WITHIN California without a State issued permit, even though monarchs naturally occur everywhere in California.

[summerluver]

Wow! Did you raise these guys from eggs? I can't believe butterflies were laying eggs so late in the season up there? Have you found this to happen in the past, or is this a new and unusual occurance?

[dannus plex]

Here in Southern Ontario we had a spring and summer with lower temperatures and more days of overcast skies. The milkweed which usually gets burned off by our previous hotter and dryer summers flourished until mid September. As a result, the egg laying season was extended. I was still picking cats into the second week of September. As of yesterday, my last cat eclosed.

[Mona Miller]

They would do fine if released in Florida. However, beware it would be illegal to bring them into the USA, even though Ontario monarchs naturally move into the USA, unless the United States Dept. of Agriculture grants you a permit and it might takes weeks to months to get such a permit.
Here in California it is illegal to transport a monarch even WITHIN California without a State issued permit, even though monarchs naturally occur everywhere in California.

Do you have permits? I remember your talking about mailing live OE infected Monarchs to another area of California for a spore count and then the person mailing them back to you?

[Paul Cherubini]

Do you have permits? I remember your talking about mailing live OE infected Monarchs to another area of California for a spore count and then the person mailing them back to you?

It’s an amazing California law that makes it illegal to transport a monarch adult or caterpillar in ones own car WITHIN the State! http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/4ALC/6305.jpg

The really crazy part is that several agricultural pest species are exempt from the law such as as Cabbage Whites, Alfalfa Butterflies, Giant Swallowtails, Anise Swallowtails, armyworms, greenhouse aphids and whiteflies and so forth:
http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87 ... xempta.jpg
http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87 ... xemptb.jpg

No, I don’t have a permit. I don’t know if I would qualify to get one. Need to find out first.

[Mona Miller]

NY prohibits transporting Monarchs in ones car to the state, but allows them to be mailed.

[Orangeaid]

I will be transporting and releasing 10 monarchs when i head south this year. I will do this without any type of permit. Of course i wont have to cross the border but i do have a hidden compartment in my trunk just in case the feds are on to my plan.

[Mona Miller]

If the USDA/APHIS finds out about your plan, you can be fined, if you are caught. There is no charge for permits for individuals, just the time it takes to fill them out. I have several permits so that I can mail or transport butterflies.

The Monarch Watch Forum does come up when you google information on the internet.

http://www-mirror.aphis.usda.gov/plant_ ... oths.shtml
How to obtain permits.

http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/te ... 1.8&idno=7
Code as of 10/16/09

[Jeans]

thanks, I don't have a permit so I did'nt bring them to florida with me, I let one go before I left because it was sunny out , the other one will probably hatch out of its chrysalis while I'm gone. I will try to wait for a warmish day to release it.
ya, i was suprised the butterflies layed eggs this late here. this is my first year of actually looking for eggs, I didn't know that there are so many monarchs out there, it has been cooler than normal this summer, it was getting hard to feed them by the end though because the frost was killing the milkweed.
I hope the late butterflies will be ok

[Mona Miller]

Did you have tropical milkweed planted? One reason they are laying late is because the tropical milkweed doesn't die back like the other milkweed do.

[texas butterfly]

Does anyone know if a permit is required to transport within Texas?

Was assuming that the key was if you crossed state boundaries.

But, if California has a law restricting transportation within the state, it seems other states may have a similar law.